SOCD (Fear of schizophrenia)

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I suffered from this for about 2.5 years, I can't take it anymore, everyday 24/7 it is like this, I've been to a psychiatrist and psychologist (last time in may, and he said that I dont need him anymore) and they all say I don't have scizophrenia at all but my mind keeps f***ing with me. I've seen some videos from Ali Greymond and they helped me a bit, but now they don't help either. My OCD has peaked every little whisper, every little breath I hear I think is voices in my head and that I'm schizophrenic. How do you do exposure therapy for this? I just cant do any ERP. Does anyone else suffer from this and how did you get over it?

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This keeps going because you keep powering these thoughts. Dont entertain any thoughts regarding these voices in your head. Dont be trying to figure out what voice is you and what voice isnt, thats the problem that keeps you stuck. Every time you get a thought that has to do with this theme, just disregard. Choose to believe this is 100% ocd and keep going and pushing through.

I had the same thing. I would analyze over and over again if a certain thought was me or if it wasnt, if i was thinking it or if i wasnt, its a loop that kept me stuck for so long. You have to break out of that loop.

You will not go crazy, trust me. If you were going crazy, you would not be asking this question.

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Yes, I also struggled with this theme. You do have to stop caring If you have schizophrenia or not. If you truly had schizophrenia, you would not be questioning if you did. You wouldn't think that you did and you would think that you were normal.

I did ERP exercises that included watching YouTube videos of people having psychosis or psychotic breaks while using hook statements. "Maybe I do have schizophrenia, maybe I don't". Guess I'll deal with it if that happens.

I would also try to use humor with it. Yep, im getting schizophrenia.. thats a good one OCD. Let's see it happen then. Oh... not today? Maybe tomorrow then.

You can also try doing ERP with setting volume different all over your house to mimic hearing voices while using hook statements.

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Quote from Guest on December 26, 2020, 4:02 am

I suffered from this for about 2.5 years, I can't take it anymore, everyday 24/7 it is like this, I've been to a psychiatrist and psychologist (last time in may, and he said that I dont need him anymore) and they all say I don't have scizophrenia at all but my mind keeps f***ing with me. I've seen some videos from Ali Greymond and they helped me a bit, but now they don't help either. My OCD has peaked every little whisper, every little breath I hear I think is voices in my head and that I'm schizophrenic. How do you do exposure therapy for this? I just cant do any ERP. Does anyone else suffer from this and how did you get over it?

When begining ocd recovery, you cannot expect yourself to be perfect. Focus on reducing rumination rather than eliminating it all together. Try to delay rumination, like maybe tell yourself that you wont ruminate for the next 30 minutes then the next hour and maybe the next day etc. OCD will try to twist it and make you feel like if you're not perfect at recovery then you cant recover. It's all a lie. Noones recovery is perfect. The feelings, and sensations and thoughts are all a lie. OCD will try to make it feel as real as possible to get you into reaction. You must refuse reaction. Automatic fear and feelings and thoughts and sensations will arise but you must resist reaction. 

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Quote from Guest on December 28, 2020, 1:30 am

Yes, I also struggled with this theme. You do have to stop caring If you have schizophrenia or not. If you truly had schizophrenia, you would not be questioning if you did. You wouldn't think that you did and you would think that you were normal.

I did ERP exercises that included watching YouTube videos of people having psychosis or psychotic breaks while using hook statements. "Maybe I do have schizophrenia, maybe I don't". Guess I'll deal with it if that happens.

I would also try to use humor with it. Yep, im getting schizophrenia.. thats a good one OCD. Let's see it happen then. Oh... not today? Maybe tomorrow then.

You can also try doing ERP with setting volume different all over your house to mimic hearing voices while using hook statements.

Right now it is very very annoying, I keep getting pictures in my head and then begin to think is that a hallucination and get it gets me very very afraid to the point that I just sit home and just play PC or watch movies or whatever to keep my head away from these thoughts, last night I got an image in my head that my wife would turn into a monster/demon (I know it's really stupid) and then I begin thinking is this an hallucination or is it just a thought/image, if I'm not hallucinating, will I start hallucinating etc etc etc. This is my new thing, because this is what my brain sees as the closest thing to being psychotic.

I've had a looot of themes throughout 15 years but this has been the most annoying so far, because 5 psychiatrists told me that I dont have any psychotic issue and I'm just anxious but my brain just won't understand, this has been going on for 2.5 years now.

I am very afraid to watch youtube videos with people having a psychosis because I'm afraid I will try to mimic it.

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Hi, This is why when you get these thoughts-( because thats all they are) you have to disregard straight away Ocd is trying to make u scared the more scared u get the more it will send you these images. as soon as one comes in "NOPE" not doing this ocd, ul see that they become less frequent and you will become less anxious. You can do this.

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Quote from Guest on December 29, 2020, 5:35 am
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Yes, I also struggled with this theme. You do have to stop caring If you have schizophrenia or not. If you truly had schizophrenia, you would not be questioning if you did. You wouldn't think that you did and you would think that you were normal.

I did ERP exercises that included watching YouTube videos of people having psychosis or psychotic breaks while using hook statements. "Maybe I do have schizophrenia, maybe I don't". Guess I'll deal with it if that happens.

I would also try to use humor with it. Yep, im getting schizophrenia.. thats a good one OCD. Let's see it happen then. Oh... not today? Maybe tomorrow then.

You can also try doing ERP with setting volume different all over your house to mimic hearing voices while using hook statements.

Right now it is very very annoying, I keep getting pictures in my head and then begin to think is that a hallucination and get it gets me very very afraid to the point that I just sit home and just play PC or watch movies or whatever to keep my head away from these thoughts, last night I got an image in my head that my wife would turn into a monster/demon (I know it's really stupid) and then I begin thinking is this an hallucination or is it just a thought/image, if I'm not hallucinating, will I start hallucinating etc etc etc. This is my new thing, because this is what my brain sees as the closest thing to being psychotic.

I've had a looot of themes throughout 15 years but this has been the most annoying so far, because 5 psychiatrists told me that I dont have any psychotic issue and I'm just anxious but my brain just won't understand, this has been going on for 2.5 years now.

I am very afraid to watch youtube videos with people having a psychosis because I'm afraid I will try to mimic it.

I hear you,  and it is hard. However, the more you resist the thoughts, argue with them,  push them away, or try to figure it out, the stronger and more frequent the thoughts and sensations will happen. This theme is hanging on because you are telling your brain that it might be a real threat and that you are scared of it.

Watching the psychosis videos is scary! That's the whole purpose of doing it as an exposure. After doing that for a few weeks, your mind will see it as a ridiculous thing to be worried about, but you have to be strong with the response prevention.

You have to disregard the thoughts as Spam Mail, or you have to just agree with them with a hook statement. Maybe, maybe not.

ERP works, and it will fade like all the other themes. Trust in the process. This theme still spikes me sometimes, but its easier to disregard now.

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I have the same exact fear. I listened and listened  and listened... and investigated any sound I didn’t immediately know the source of. I ended up convincing myself I heard something. It seemed like I couldn’t do erp because it was so automatic. So I started not investigating. I just started saying to myself “don’t know.” It was so uncomfortable because I felt as though if I couldn’t prove where the sound came from therefore I must have schizophrenia. I kept doing this and it became more and more easy. It was painful and uncomfortable and felt like torture. But there is a silver lining... the more you refuse to investigate or make yourself feel better and just say “maybe” or “don’t know” the easier it becomes. The feelings are the hardest part. It feels like you must figure this out. But you don’t and the more you make it a priority to leave it unanswered the better you feel. I empathize with how you are feeling but these feelings are temporary and begin to lift as you progress. 

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I’ve been really struggling with this theme too lately . I keep feeling like it’s not ocd . I keep taking am I Schizophrenic or bi polar tests . I know I shouldn’t be doing these tests to try and figure it out . And I’m trying to stop that.

So far I just tell myself so what if you do . It’ll be okay .

It feels better to see that iam not alone on this one !