False memory Help

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(Present a thought i mean imagine a thought)

Hello. I suffer from false memory OCD. Recently, the thoughts of OCD are connected with the topic: "suddenly I attacked a person and took him to a room that is located next to the apartment." Thinking about an old thought, I imagined a thought, as if I thought whether I had such a thought or not. After presenting the thought, the thought immediately occurred to me that suddenly I attacked now. I analyzed this thought. I would like to clarify about the following situation: I was sitting near the sofa, thinking about the past situation of the okr, trying to understand whether what the okr tells me was or not, whether I could have such thoughts at that time and most likely presented a thought in my head here the thought came that I suddenly attacked now, but I realized that I was sitting near the sofa and did not remember going into the corridor and did not remember taking the keys. After a while, the thought began to creep into my head that suddenly I did not present a thought, but suddenly I had a real thought, suddenly I went out, suddenly I attacked, but I understand that I was thinking about the old situation of the okr, most likely I presented a thought, but now I’m in my head thoughts climb that suddenly I did not present a thought, but suddenly I had a real thought and suddenly I attacked. I understand that I could not have such a thought, but thoughts come into my head that I suddenly attacked. I understand that the neighbors have the keys to the room, to which, as my thoughts say, I suddenly carried a person. But I understand that I have never seen this door open, but thoughts creep into my head that suddenly the neighbors were there and forgot to close the door, and then they remembered and closed it without looking there. I understand that even if the neighbors were there, they would not have forgotten to close the door, but the thought that suddenly they forgot to close the door, suddenly I attacked, but I understood that I was thinking about the old OCD situation, most likely I presented a thought and the thought came to my mind that I suddenly attacked, but I understand that I do not remember going into the corridor, I do not remember taking the keys. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Whether this situation is a manifestation of false memory OCD. How can you characterize the fact that I anticipate a thought and this entails the emergence of a new OCD thought, and suddenly I attacked. I have suffered from these situations for a long time and I understand that the situations are similar. In previous situations, thoughts also entered my head that suddenly the neighbors forgot to close the door, but they couldn't forget to close it all the time. Thanks in advance for your reply. I notice that these OCD thoughts are similar, I think about an old thought, I am trying to understand whether it was or not, I imagine a thought, the thought comes to my mind that suddenly I’m nap., But I understand that I was sitting and most likely imagining a thought Thoughts creep into my head and say that suddenly I didn’t imagine a thought, but suddenly I had a thought, suddenly I attacked, but I understand that I don’t remember going out. Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Hi there. I’ve noticed you have posted this several times in the forum and I think your post is going unanswered because it’s a bit difficult to follow what you are saying. If I am understanding correctly you had an ocd thought of you attacking someone and began to wonder if it could be real. Then you had another thought similar with new thoughts of the neighbors leaving the door open which adds onto the feared original thought. And then you are also questioning when you have a thought if you just had a thought or if you actually did something? I hope I’m understanding right. This sounds very much like false memory ocd. With false memory ocd you get intrusive thoughts. And new intrusive thoughts can occur and add new “details” to the intrusive thoughts. They can be similar scenarios or they can be presented like “what if it happened like this instead?” or it can be a totally new unrelated ocd thought. Ocd can also make you think “did I really have an ocd thought like that or is that a memory?”. Ocd can also make you think “did I just commit this act?” While you are literally sitting there doing nothing. It is all ocd my friend. You are clearly ruminating a lot which makes the thoughts “spider web” or get very convoluted and your ocd begins drawing connections and creating new what ifs when none of it is true and none of it means anything. These are just thoughts. Please try to do the therapy where you don’t ruminate. I promise you from experience with this type of ocd it helps you to see more clearly that these are just thoughts and nothing more. But you have to stop doing your compulsions (analyzing the thoughts or giving them any attention). When you get this thought label it as an ocd thought and do not ruminate. Do not try to figure out if you remember doing something. Do not remind yourself how you don’t remember doing the feared thought. Don’t engage with the thoughts at all. It is so difficult to do this but THIS is how you get the clarity you want so bad. When we analyze the thoughts with ocd we get a million more what if thoughts and it feels more “real” or “familiar” the more we go over it in our head. And the anxiety associated with the thought plus the fact that with ocd our brains get “stuck in gear” where we get stuck on “could this be real?” Is what gives us that dreaded feeling of “is this a memory of something I did?” When in reality it is nothing more than an intrusive thought. Please try to not engage with the thought. Trust me friend, this is coming from someone with severe ocd that has given me so many awful false memory intrusive thoughts that used to terrify me and since I’ve started to not engage the thoughts I can see they are not real. I am still working on not engaging with all the false memory ocd thoughts I have so I know how challenging this is. But you will recover if you stop ruminating. Try to not engage with the thoughts and keep track of your anxiety. It will get higher at first bc you are stopping your compulsions but then it will gradually lower. Let me know how it goes. 

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Hello. Thanks for your feedback and your comments. I would like to clarify with you about another OCD situation:it was the beginning of 4 am, I was sitting on the couch and listening to music, thinking about the old OCD situation, saying to myself "Why should I believe what the OCD is telling me that I suddenly attacked?" After that, either i imagined the idea himself, or an idea occurred to himself, after which the thought immediately occurred to me that suddenly I had just attacked. I was sitting on the couch, listening to music, I realized that I didn’t remember getting up and walking into the corridor, thoughts came into my head and said: “now suddenly there’s a real situation, or they even climbed like false statements that suddenly this is a true situation”. I realized that after I said the phrase that why should I believe OCD, a repose came to my mind and then the thought that I suddenly attacked, but I realized that I was sitting on the couch and listening to music. I understand that I was sitting on a couch and most likely after the phrase I imagined a thought and the thought came to my mind that I suddenly attacked, but thoughts come to my mind that suddenly I did not imagine the thought, and suddenly I had a real thought, suddenly I attacked, but I understand that I don’t remember turning off the song on the headphones, I don’t remember getting up from the couch. The thought that suddenly that door of the room I mentioned above was open, suddenly the neighbors got up at three in the morning and went there and forgot to close the door, suddenly I attacked and was there. But I understand that this most likely could not be, if the neighbors were there, they would not have forgotten to close the door. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Thanks in advance for your reply.

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With false memory ocd it’s common to get an intrusive thought and the what if that just happened/what if I just did that thoughts. It’s ocd thoughts like all the rest. It feels anxiety provoking because you have ocd. The treatment is the same. Don’t go over in your head how you were sitting there and listening to music and don’t remember doing what the thoughts say. Label it as ocd and try not to focus on it. I know it’s hard. Mindful awareness therapy is beneficial for this type of ocd too. 

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Pls tell me what type of ocd it is and how to get over it.My one is i will do something ex- Breathe in certain ways or saying or reapting certain word and I will check how people reacting and how I am doing my work if they don,t respond well I will change words. i have habit of repeteating word in my head example if I decide to do what ali said in video to track time then I will track time and see how people are reacting and  how I m doing my work  if not good I will change the repeating word to  erp what are my compulsion bla  bla  so point is I add faith to this and  repeat this words,i think if i repeat it my perfomance will good or best .if i play game this word will improve my performance and this word will not ,and .also if i decided to not repeat any word i will repeat in my head "not repeat" and check how people are responding or doing my work. I they don,t respond well I well switch back to different words. One more example ; if i repeat or say'don,t think what people think about you' i will check the family member or freind are talking to me nice or not and if not i will change the word 

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It sounds like your compulsions are to repeat words in your head and then check reactions of others (which sounds like some magical thinking ocd). Your therapy is the same as all other "types" of OCD. Stop the compulsions. So you have to stop repeating words in your head and stop checking to see how people are responding to you.

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Thank you. I would like to hear your opinion on the following situation. In the morning and at lunchtime, OCD thoughts related to the fact that I suddenly did something, in general, obsessive thoughts of false memory OCD crept into my head. I tried not to react to them. Although I was closed in the apartment, the ideas about which I spoke earlier climbed into my head, and the thoughts came that I suddenly attacked a person. I realized that I was closed in the apartment and could not go out. I went to bed. I remember that I seemed to wake up when my relative came home, he was in another room. I don't remember it clearly, most likely I imagined a thought, the thought immediately occurred to me that I suddenly attacked, but I could ask a relative if I had left. I don't remember exactly this moment. I went to bed. When I woke up, the thought began to creep into my head that suddenly when I was waking up, suddenly I did not imagine the thought, suddenly I had a real thought, suddenly I got up from the couch, went and took the keys, suddenly the neighbors forgot to close the door of the room into which suddenly I carried the man. I understand that I do not remember clearly the time when I woke up, I understand that I could imagine a thought, but I don’t remember going into the corridor, I don’t think I could have a real thought, but thoughts creep into my head, because I vaguely remember this time, I vaguely remember what exactly I imagine and whether I imagined at all. Suddenly at that moment I attacked, or suddenly it did not happen and I dreamed about it, but I remember that I seemed to wake up and most likely imagined a thought, the thought most likely came to my mind that I suddenly attacked, but due to the fact that I went to bed later. I already vaguely remember what exactly I was imagining, because of which thoughts come into my head that I suddenly attacked, but I understand that I don't remember this and I don't think I could get up and go into the corridor. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Due to the fact that I went to bed, I do not remember clearly the time that gave OCD the basis for the emergence of thoughts, that suddenly I attacked at that time, suddenly I had a thought, but I understand that I most likely imagined a thought, a thought came to my mind that suddenly I was attacked, I was lying on the couch and went to bed, but thoughts creep into my head that suddenly I got up and suddenly attacked. But I understand that I remember this day well. I remember how then I got up and went to the toilet. I remember that. Thoughts come to my mind that suddenly the neighbors were in that room and forgot to close the door, then they came back and, in spite of the room, closed it. But I understand that I have never seen the door open, if the neighbors were there, they most likely would not have forgotten to close the door. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Quote from Guest on January 6, 2021, 6:55 pm

With false memory ocd it’s common to get an intrusive thought and the what if that just happened/what if I just did that thoughts. It’s ocd thoughts like all the rest. It feels anxiety provoking because you have ocd. The treatment is the same. Don’t go over in your head how you were sitting there and listening to music and don’t remember doing what the thoughts say. Label it as ocd and try not to focus on it. I know it’s hard. Mindful awareness therapy is beneficial for this type of ocd too. 

Thank you. I would like to hear your opinion on the following situation. In the morning and at lunchtime, OCD thoughts related to the fact that I suddenly did something, in general, obsessive thoughts of false memory OCD crept into my head. I tried not to react to them. Although I was closed in the apartment, the ideas about which I spoke earlier climbed into my head, and the thoughts came that I suddenly attacked a person. I realized that I was closed in the apartment and could not go out. I went to bed. I remember that I seemed to wake up when my relative came home, he was in another room. I don't remember it clearly, most likely I imagined a thought, the thought immediately occurred to me that I suddenly attacked, but I could ask a relative if I had left. I don't remember exactly this moment. I went to bed. When I woke up, the thought began to creep into my head that suddenly when I was waking up, suddenly I did not imagine the thought, suddenly I had a real thought, suddenly I got up from the couch, went and took the keys, suddenly the neighbors forgot to close the door of the room into which suddenly I carried the man. I understand that I do not remember clearly the time when I woke up, I understand that I could imagine a thought, but I don’t remember going into the corridor, I don’t think I could have a real thought, but thoughts creep into my head, because I vaguely remember this time, I vaguely remember what exactly I imagine and whether I imagined at all. Suddenly at that moment I attacked, or suddenly it did not happen and I dreamed about it, but I remember that I seemed to wake up and most likely imagined a thought, the thought most likely came to my mind that I suddenly attacked, but due to the fact that I went to bed later. I already vaguely remember what exactly I was imagining, because of which thoughts come into my head that I suddenly attacked, but I understand that I don't remember this and I don't think I could get up and go into the corridor. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Due to the fact that I went to bed, I do not remember clearly the time that gave OCD the basis for the emergence of thoughts, that suddenly I attacked at that time, suddenly I had a thought, but I understand that I most likely imagined a thought, a thought came to my mind that suddenly I was attacked, I was lying on the couch and went to bed, but thoughts creep into my head that suddenly I got up and suddenly attacked. But I understand that I remember this day well. I remember how then I got up and went to the toilet. I remember that. Thoughts come to my mind that suddenly the neighbors were in that room and forgot to close the door, then they came back and, in spite of the room, closed it. But I understand that I have never seen the door open, if the neighbors were there, they most likely would not have forgotten to close the door. I would like to hear your opinion on this situation. Thanks in advance for your reply.

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